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Bhai whi to bol rha hu .... htao fir pok se army
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Kafeel Miyaan... aap Kashmir Kashmir ka rona chodo, bas kuch din aur wait karo. Bohat jald aapko aapke saare jawaab mil jayenge. Aapko thodi si bhi sharam nahi hai na.. khud terrorists kashmir mein bhej ke dange karate ho, ladko ko pathar fekne ke liye paise bhejwate ho aur kehte ho freedom fighters hain woh??
Jitne mare hain protests mein woh sab ke sab us MC BC Burhan Wani ke support mein protest kar rahe the. Chahe 70 din ho ya 80 din, jo terrorists ko support karega woh aise hi marega.
Aur jin logo ka aap zikr kar rahe hai jinko aazaadi chahiye, woh sirf 2% aabadi hai pure jammu aur kashmir ki.
Logo ne khud sarkaar chuni hai waha pe kuch mahine pehle.
Kaan khol ke sun le aap aur aap jaise bhakchod pakistani jo kashmir ke sapne dekh rahe hain, woh Balochistan aur Sindh ki chinta shuru kar dein.
Allah aapko thodi budhhi dein aur aap sada khushi khushi aur aabaad rahein..
(Sorry admins, english translation not possible for this)
Jitne mare hain protests mein woh sab ke sab us MC BC Burhan Wani ke support mein protest kar rahe the. Chahe 70 din ho ya 80 din, jo terrorists ko support karega woh aise hi marega.
Aur jin logo ka aap zikr kar rahe hai jinko aazaadi chahiye, woh sirf 2% aabadi hai pure jammu aur kashmir ki.
Logo ne khud sarkaar chuni hai waha pe kuch mahine pehle.
Kaan khol ke sun le aap aur aap jaise bhakchod pakistani jo kashmir ke sapne dekh rahe hain, woh Balochistan aur Sindh ki chinta shuru kar dein.
Allah aapko thodi budhhi dein aur aap sada khushi khushi aur aabaad rahein..
(Sorry admins, english translation not possible for this)
kafeel_azam said:
Tell me one thing, if a donkey sees itself in d mirror as a tiger, does he actually becomes a tiger ?
:no, he still remains a donkey... !
Same is the case with with you and your country !!
Ur country is a beggar country, and is only existing due to world bank/American aid... and here You are giving big lectures !!
Do U know without the World bank's money, U might just end with a begging bowl !! Do U know, U have a debt of 1.25 lakh rupees on you, of the world bank !!
Do U have that much money, how U r going to pay them... Start to think about, how u r going to repay them.
Atleast we have democracy. U have a puppet PM, whose in army's control.... poor guy, licks their feet, I guess !
I think U shud slap urself, every morning, when u wake up.... just for the fact, that u r born in Pakistan. :damn
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shawl_who said:
What about these stats
Poverty in India - the statistics
50% of Indians don’t have proper shelter ;
70% don’t have access to decent toilets (which inspires a multitude of bacteria to host their own disease party);
35% of households don’t have a nearby water source;
85% of villages don’t have a secondary school (how can this be the same government claiming 9% annual growth?);
Over 40% of these same villages don’t have proper roads connecting them
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Now what is more important for you going mars
or
at least give basics facility like water and toilet to those who are living in rural areas which is 70%
or
at least give basics facility like water and toilet to those who are living in rural areas which is 70%
kafeel_azam said:
No elected govt in POK from last 69 years and it is being ruled by foreign ruler from Islamabad which is ok if you had given the right to vote POK people to choose Pak's federal Govt. But You have not given POK people the right to vote for pakistan's federal Govt and choose the ruler who will rule them from Islamabad. Is that what you call a democracy ?
Before you jump in and call that there is proper democracy in POK, then tell me how many MPs you have in your Islamabad national parliament which create policy for pakistan from POK ?
So Stop giving us lecture :dodgy
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Pakistan is a totally screwed up nation in every manner, here are some facts:
Why was Pakistan born: Jinna & Nehru were graduates from same college & had same experience in Indian freedom movement and both of them were introduced by Gandhiji. Post Independence, Gandhiji supported Nehru for Prime Minister position, Jinna was offended. Jinnah was much more talented than Nehru and so he played game of separating Hindu & Muslim knowing the fact Nehru is not politically that much efficient and also Muslims had majority in Asia compared to Hindus (but later Muslim countries didn’t recognized Pakistan as nation and so Pakistan became a failed state).
Failure of Two Nation Theory: Biggest clash between Hindu’s & Muslim’s happened in Kolkata as that area (which is now Bangladesh was majority Muslims and that time was part of India) and so two nation theory was planned by British Government stating Muslims are anti-hindus and cannot live with them, so there is requirement of new nation Pakistan which will drive away all Muslims from India. But when Pakistan was born, majority muslims stayed back and so Two Nation Theory Failed.
Bangladesh is real Pakistan: Currently known as Bangladesh (Previously East Pakistan) is real Pakistan as people of that country actually fought with Hindu’s to get a separate nation and not citizens of current Pakistan.
Distortion of history: Pakistani’s always distort history in such a way Pakistan is always a hero, but other countries are there enemies. As per 5th standard text books in Pakistan, Pakistan movement started in 1930’s in Allahabad (and not in Kolkata, but Pakistani’s don’t know Allahabad is having least population of Muslims and had never faced any communal riots) and there are many more activities.
Fooling their own citizens: This is highest priority task always done by Pakistan & their army. For Example: When Pakistan lost Bangladesh news papers in Pakistan were forced to quote some other story. For four days after their surrender, they kept on stating we are winning the war, we are marching ahead, we are about to win war etc. After four days, news papers stated “BASED ON HUMANITARIAN BACKGROUND, PAKISTAN CALLED ON CEASE FIRE”. Till this point it was never told to Pakistani’s that their 90,000 soldiers are arrested by Indian army. Original story every one in this world knows apart from Pakistanis. You can watch their news channels in relation to India discussions, they will put up points which are totally false. In fact, you will same army generals discussing every topic on news channels be it related to military or a civilian issue, Army person is only authorized to put their points.
No nationalism in Pakistan: You will never sense nationalism in Pakistan (apart from India matters) because of the history of the area which we know as Pakistan. Originally before independence Pakistan area was Punjab state and their were Punjabi’s and Sindhi’s. After independence, muslims from UP, Bihar & Maharashtra went to form Pakistan. Left out Sindhi’s & Punjabi’s retaliated, but they were forced to become muslim, learn urdu and had to convert to islam. Original sindhi’s & punjabi’s are still feeling offended as Sindhi & Punjabi is not recognized as a language anymore in Pakistan. That is why, you can see separatist protests in Karachi, Lahore & other areas. MQM’s chief Altaf Husain is also leading this. Baloch’s are fighting for their freedom (which forms 40$ of Pakistan), POK is fighting for their freedom. Pakistani Government is busy in looting their nation and to create there assets in Arab Countries or UK so that in case mess up happens in PAK, they are safe, Pakistani Army rules all three forces and even dictates civilian government. You will be amazed to know, Pakistani army acts just like a paralell government, they have their own trial court (not only for soldiers but also for civilians), their own toothpaste, soap brands they are manufacturing, they own power grid. In fact, Pakistani army contributes to 10% of Pakistans GDP !!! LOL. So, where will nationalism come into picture and not to forget worst agency in the world ISI, they are running their own agenda. You can understand from this incident, During Kargil war when Nawaaz Shareef went to Bill Clinton (USA) for help in countering India (as Pakitan was strategic alley to USA), CIA informed Bill Clinton that PAK Army was planning to throw nuclear bomb on India. When Mr. Clinton asked Nawaz Shareef, then he was totally amazed and was completely un-aware of this situation.
Kargil War: During kargil war (as stated in above point), Nawaaz Shareef went to seek US troops help in Pakistan in countering India. Clinton’s comment was: “I will not let you black mail USA just because you have nuclear weapons. You attacked India, you decide what to do but USA is not at all going to help you”. When Mr. Clinton came to know about Pak planning for nuclear attack, Mr. Clinton handed over two chits to Nawaaz Shareef stating “Nawaaz here are two chits, one says “we accept we attacked India and acted against Human Rights, as a result we should be thrown out of UN” and other one said “Pakistan calls for cease fire””, now its your choice which one you want to choose and said go out and communicate to reporters. Obviosuly, nawaaz Shareef decided for later.
Why was Pakistan born: Jinna & Nehru were graduates from same college & had same experience in Indian freedom movement and both of them were introduced by Gandhiji. Post Independence, Gandhiji supported Nehru for Prime Minister position, Jinna was offended. Jinnah was much more talented than Nehru and so he played game of separating Hindu & Muslim knowing the fact Nehru is not politically that much efficient and also Muslims had majority in Asia compared to Hindus (but later Muslim countries didn’t recognized Pakistan as nation and so Pakistan became a failed state).
Failure of Two Nation Theory: Biggest clash between Hindu’s & Muslim’s happened in Kolkata as that area (which is now Bangladesh was majority Muslims and that time was part of India) and so two nation theory was planned by British Government stating Muslims are anti-hindus and cannot live with them, so there is requirement of new nation Pakistan which will drive away all Muslims from India. But when Pakistan was born, majority muslims stayed back and so Two Nation Theory Failed.
Bangladesh is real Pakistan: Currently known as Bangladesh (Previously East Pakistan) is real Pakistan as people of that country actually fought with Hindu’s to get a separate nation and not citizens of current Pakistan.
Distortion of history: Pakistani’s always distort history in such a way Pakistan is always a hero, but other countries are there enemies. As per 5th standard text books in Pakistan, Pakistan movement started in 1930’s in Allahabad (and not in Kolkata, but Pakistani’s don’t know Allahabad is having least population of Muslims and had never faced any communal riots) and there are many more activities.
Fooling their own citizens: This is highest priority task always done by Pakistan & their army. For Example: When Pakistan lost Bangladesh news papers in Pakistan were forced to quote some other story. For four days after their surrender, they kept on stating we are winning the war, we are marching ahead, we are about to win war etc. After four days, news papers stated “BASED ON HUMANITARIAN BACKGROUND, PAKISTAN CALLED ON CEASE FIRE”. Till this point it was never told to Pakistani’s that their 90,000 soldiers are arrested by Indian army. Original story every one in this world knows apart from Pakistanis. You can watch their news channels in relation to India discussions, they will put up points which are totally false. In fact, you will same army generals discussing every topic on news channels be it related to military or a civilian issue, Army person is only authorized to put their points.
No nationalism in Pakistan: You will never sense nationalism in Pakistan (apart from India matters) because of the history of the area which we know as Pakistan. Originally before independence Pakistan area was Punjab state and their were Punjabi’s and Sindhi’s. After independence, muslims from UP, Bihar & Maharashtra went to form Pakistan. Left out Sindhi’s & Punjabi’s retaliated, but they were forced to become muslim, learn urdu and had to convert to islam. Original sindhi’s & punjabi’s are still feeling offended as Sindhi & Punjabi is not recognized as a language anymore in Pakistan. That is why, you can see separatist protests in Karachi, Lahore & other areas. MQM’s chief Altaf Husain is also leading this. Baloch’s are fighting for their freedom (which forms 40$ of Pakistan), POK is fighting for their freedom. Pakistani Government is busy in looting their nation and to create there assets in Arab Countries or UK so that in case mess up happens in PAK, they are safe, Pakistani Army rules all three forces and even dictates civilian government. You will be amazed to know, Pakistani army acts just like a paralell government, they have their own trial court (not only for soldiers but also for civilians), their own toothpaste, soap brands they are manufacturing, they own power grid. In fact, Pakistani army contributes to 10% of Pakistans GDP !!! LOL. So, where will nationalism come into picture and not to forget worst agency in the world ISI, they are running their own agenda. You can understand from this incident, During Kargil war when Nawaaz Shareef went to Bill Clinton (USA) for help in countering India (as Pakitan was strategic alley to USA), CIA informed Bill Clinton that PAK Army was planning to throw nuclear bomb on India. When Mr. Clinton asked Nawaz Shareef, then he was totally amazed and was completely un-aware of this situation.
Kargil War: During kargil war (as stated in above point), Nawaaz Shareef went to seek US troops help in Pakistan in countering India. Clinton’s comment was: “I will not let you black mail USA just because you have nuclear weapons. You attacked India, you decide what to do but USA is not at all going to help you”. When Mr. Clinton came to know about Pak planning for nuclear attack, Mr. Clinton handed over two chits to Nawaaz Shareef stating “Nawaaz here are two chits, one says “we accept we attacked India and acted against Human Rights, as a result we should be thrown out of UN” and other one said “Pakistan calls for cease fire””, now its your choice which one you want to choose and said go out and communicate to reporters. Obviosuly, nawaaz Shareef decided for later.
kafeel_azam said:
You also have that mentality. Don't forget pakistan was in India from the very start till 1947. So what ever mentality we have in our mind from history, you also bear it
Hmm. Lots of stats data. Indian Govt should look at this. :wall
But one thing is that whole pakistan is a beggar and American slave along with a terrorist state(Don't get me wrong but world's most wanted terrorist Bin laden and Co was found in the backyard of your army base
). Continuous US Drone attack on your soil to kill terrorist also confirm it that it's a breeding ground.Whole pakistan remains hungry if America and others stop giving money. That's the reason why your Govt don't have guts to shoot down American/NATO Drone and fighter jets as they knew that if they do then whole pakistan will have to sleep without having a dinner :lol
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Pakistan crying for war but they should know these facts
Here are some facts of India Pakistan wars:
Pakistan started all the wars between the two countries since 1947
India won all the wars since 1947
The only war where the Indian Navy was fully utilized was in 1971
The Indian Navy attack on Karachi harbour code named Operation Trident and Operation Python was a unique naval operation which is discussed as a case study in many war and defence colleges across the world
In the 1999 Kargil conflict between the two countries, India was victorious without having to cross the border
The Pakistani loss in the 1971 war saw the highest number of surrenders since the second world war. Around 90,000 Pakistani officers and soldiers surrendered to the Indian Army
When the Pakistan Air Force launched their pre-emptive air strikes on Indian aor fields in the western sector of India in 1971, not a single Indian aricraft was hit or damaged. The Indian intelligence had prior information of the attack and all air assets were moved to safer areas having secondary runways
The Battle of Longewala in Rajasthan saw 120 Indian soldiers holding their base against a mammoth 45 tanks and 2000 Pakistani before defeating the Pakistanis. India lost only 2 soldiers and Pakistan lost 200 soldiers and 34 tanks
The Battle of Asal Uttar was the biggest tank battle since the second world war resulting in an Indian victory in 1965
Pakistan attacked India in 1965 believing that India was economically and militarily weak to fight a long drawn battle after India's loss to China in 1962. While the assessment of the Pakistanis were right but what they failed to realise is that Indians die for their country and Indian soldiers are led from the front by the officers unlike Pakistan, where the officers abandon their file and rank
2nd Lt. Arun Khetrapal who posthumously was awarded the Param Veer Chakra, India's highest wartime gallantry award is till date the youngest army officer to receive this. He was only 21 when he made the supreme sacrifice
Brig. Mohammed Nasser who as a young officer had killed 2nd Lt. Arun Khetrapal during the tank battle, hosted Brig. Khetarpal (Father of 2nd Lt. Arun Khetarpal) in Lahore in 2001. During their many tea time discussions, Brig. Nasser admitted to Brig. Khetarpal that it was him who had killed his son amd seeked for forgiveness and saluted Brig. Khetarpal for being the father of such a brave Indian officer. This is probably a fine example of military chivalry between two officers from opposing side's
Many Indian army officers who fought in the 1947, 1965 and 1971 wars were born in Pakistan before the partition in 1947 or they served as colleagues or batch mates when they served the British Indian Army before independence. Ex: Gen. Ayub Khan of Pakistan and Field Marshal Cariappa of India. Ayub Khan also served directly under Field Marshal Cariappa
Field Marshal Cariappa's son, Flt. Lt. F.C Cariappa was shot down by the Pakistani Army over Pakistan in the 1965 war. Gen. Ayub Khan who was leading the country was informed about this and on learning that the man captured was his former CO's son, he offered to release him. But Field Marshal Cariappa refused and said "He is just a soldier of India and shall be treated on par as others. If he must be released, then Pakistan must release all"
Here are some facts of India Pakistan wars:
Pakistan started all the wars between the two countries since 1947
India won all the wars since 1947
The only war where the Indian Navy was fully utilized was in 1971
The Indian Navy attack on Karachi harbour code named Operation Trident and Operation Python was a unique naval operation which is discussed as a case study in many war and defence colleges across the world
In the 1999 Kargil conflict between the two countries, India was victorious without having to cross the border
The Pakistani loss in the 1971 war saw the highest number of surrenders since the second world war. Around 90,000 Pakistani officers and soldiers surrendered to the Indian Army
When the Pakistan Air Force launched their pre-emptive air strikes on Indian aor fields in the western sector of India in 1971, not a single Indian aricraft was hit or damaged. The Indian intelligence had prior information of the attack and all air assets were moved to safer areas having secondary runways
The Battle of Longewala in Rajasthan saw 120 Indian soldiers holding their base against a mammoth 45 tanks and 2000 Pakistani before defeating the Pakistanis. India lost only 2 soldiers and Pakistan lost 200 soldiers and 34 tanks
The Battle of Asal Uttar was the biggest tank battle since the second world war resulting in an Indian victory in 1965
Pakistan attacked India in 1965 believing that India was economically and militarily weak to fight a long drawn battle after India's loss to China in 1962. While the assessment of the Pakistanis were right but what they failed to realise is that Indians die for their country and Indian soldiers are led from the front by the officers unlike Pakistan, where the officers abandon their file and rank
2nd Lt. Arun Khetrapal who posthumously was awarded the Param Veer Chakra, India's highest wartime gallantry award is till date the youngest army officer to receive this. He was only 21 when he made the supreme sacrifice
Brig. Mohammed Nasser who as a young officer had killed 2nd Lt. Arun Khetrapal during the tank battle, hosted Brig. Khetarpal (Father of 2nd Lt. Arun Khetarpal) in Lahore in 2001. During their many tea time discussions, Brig. Nasser admitted to Brig. Khetarpal that it was him who had killed his son amd seeked for forgiveness and saluted Brig. Khetarpal for being the father of such a brave Indian officer. This is probably a fine example of military chivalry between two officers from opposing side's
Many Indian army officers who fought in the 1947, 1965 and 1971 wars were born in Pakistan before the partition in 1947 or they served as colleagues or batch mates when they served the British Indian Army before independence. Ex: Gen. Ayub Khan of Pakistan and Field Marshal Cariappa of India. Ayub Khan also served directly under Field Marshal Cariappa
Field Marshal Cariappa's son, Flt. Lt. F.C Cariappa was shot down by the Pakistani Army over Pakistan in the 1965 war. Gen. Ayub Khan who was leading the country was informed about this and on learning that the man captured was his former CO's son, he offered to release him. But Field Marshal Cariappa refused and said "He is just a soldier of India and shall be treated on par as others. If he must be released, then Pakistan must release all"