You clearly don't understand what we are saying, All we are saying is give them a chance. What you are doing is judging them based on their past work. It's like a student of class 9 got same 21 mark for 3 time in a row and failed the exam. So in 4th time, what the teacher will do is award him 21 directly instead of checking the new answer sheet. Even i have criticized them for what they have done in past. See my past post. But why should be judge them now for that? They are trying to take the exam again. So Let's wait for 3rd November and then judge them on current product.